I feel this man (dr wilson) is sometimes right about things. Just out of my personal experience. But 90% of what he writes seems completely nonsense, if you would ask me. It's common to immediately disregard ideas that challenge one's established worldview. Certain people are interested only in jus...

While researching, I discovered Lawrence Wilson's writings. Wilson is another modern-day Weston Price disciple, like the WAPF, Bee Wilder, and Ramiel Nagel. Wilson has some interesting twists , challenging mainstream thinking. Such as completely avoiding fruit and fructose in favor of mostly veggies...

Recap of discussion Question: Are boiled potatoes a healthier choice than raw fruits? Disagree (Wai): 1. Higher temperature foods always have more exogenous AGEs than lower temperature foods. (Source: RRM) --Counter: Boiled potatoes have only 17 kU CML, raw fruit level. (Source: Uribarri ) ----Reply...

But do you really think if they instead of pure fructose, they had enriched the diets with fruits, or honey, they would have got the same results ? The study says that the HFr monkeys got 24% of energy from fructose. This number is interesting to me, because at my Waipocalypse peak, I was getting a...

animal evidence that doesn’t apply to humans. Dietary fructose induces endotoxemia and hepatic injury in calorically controlled primates "Even in the absence of weight gain, fructose rapidly causes liver damage that we suggest is secondary to endotoxemia and microbial translocation. Hepatic steatos...

Would love to see a study done in humans in this context. As far as I know, rats are not evolved on fruits, and may react very differently on fructose. You'd have to identify a particular significant reason that rats would react differently. Rats are used for tests because they're mammals that are ...

the 'tall man metaphor' was not helpful imho, as this is not an one-aspect issue (CML / height) The point is that you cannot equate all AGEs. (=height) In the analogy, more money = less AGEs taller height = lower temperature Generalizing does not get you closer to the truth . AGE levels have not be...

I am not seeing anywhere an actual study with numbers that says, "yes, we found high levels of [some other AGE] in boiled potatoes." They didnt investigate that yet. We do not know the levels, but we do know that cooking stimulates their formation... I accept 'higher temperatures means more AGEs/AL...

JeffC in your opinion, how safe is coconut oil? What do you think of this study of coconut oil on mitochondrial damage?: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9297804 Same article is listed on Waiwiki, plus more about lipids: http://www.waiwiki.org/index.php?title=Lipid_peroxidation This kind of study...

http://m.advances.nutrition.org/content/4/2/246.full http://chriskresser.com/ask-chris-is-fructose-really-that-bad I don't disagree with these articles, but it doesn't change my view. 'Fructose doesn't cause obesity.' I concur. They essentially say that fructose isn't all that bad unless you take a...

RRM says dehydrators are acceptable... "Acceptable" of course doesn't mean ideal, so it all depends on what your health standards are. If we were to graph unhealthiness on X and temperature on Y, I don't think it would be a 1.0 correlation. A strong positive correlation, yes, but not absolutely 1.0...

we can't quantify "High in AGE inhibitors". Maybe fruits are 1000x higher in AGE inhibitors You cook potatoes but not fruits, I think that's where those sugars make a difference. We know potatoes have high vitamins and antioxidants... We know boiled potatoes measured CML at only 17 kU (raw fruit le...

Aytundra Thinks ---> High reducing sugars = High reducing sugars on plate = High reducing sugars in mouth = High reducing sugars in gut = High reducing sugars in blood stream = Maybe leftover unprocessed reducing sugars = Some free endogenous reducing sugars = High potential to be endogenous AGEs, ...

Boiled potatoes
-High in AGE inhibitors
-Low in exogenous AGEs
-Low fructose = low endogenous AGEs

Fruit
-High in AGE inhibitors
-Low in exogenous AGEs
-High fructose = high endogenous AGEs

Conclusion: boiled potatoes are healthier than raw fruit.

What is incorrect about this reasoning?

JeffC, you are now focusing on one sub-group of AGEs, and ignoring all the other sub-groups of AGEs. I just want the specific reason that the potatoes I'm eating are excluded from the Wai diet. I've been talking about CML because in food analyses, CML has been the most widely used marker for AGEs. ...