Taking vitamins to complete your diet

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Sun 05 Aug 2007 06:46

I am thinking about taking liquid vitamins. I would divide the serving and take only what I was missing, approximately.

All of the liquid supplements I found contained medicinal herbs. Some of them contained hesperidin or alfalfa leaf extract which are said to block cholesterol absorption. Are those fine to take in small amounts or should I avoid them altogether?

dionysus · Post by **dionysus** » Sun 05 Aug 2007 09:21

Are you unable to eat more food for vitamins?

If i remember correctly, the problem with vitaman suppliments is that they are not uptaken into the body correctly. Food has other compounds which help with this uptake of the vitamin into the body efficiently.

This is only what i read (on a website somewhere).

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Sun 05 Aug 2007 22:07

Unable, that's correct.

Something which isn't efficiently taken up may be better than nothing, though. Mixing tiny portions into food might be best, I think. Or just sprinkling it on my soil

johndela1 · Post by **johndela1** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 00:18

Why not just get all your vitamins from the foods you eat and not using synthetic vitamins?

avo · Post by **avo** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 01:22

Don't take supplements. Even if you are taking it because one or more nutrients are lacking in your diet, that means there are many nutrients that you might be getting too much of. Your body knows what it is doing, all you have to do is treat it right and give it the right fuel (real foods!).

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 02:28

Why not just get all your vitamins from the foods you eat and not using synthetic vitamins?

This question was answered already.

Don't take supplements. Even if you are taking it because one or more nutrients are lacking in your diet, that means there are many nutrients that you might be getting too much of. Your body knows what it is doing, all you have to do is treat it right and give it the right fuel (real foods!).

I agree. That is why I wouldn't supplement vitamin A for example, because I almost get too much from papaya and mangos.

avo · Post by **avo** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 05:51

Just curious, which nutrients do you think you are lacking?

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 06:49

According to the nutrients calculator, I am lacking calcium (below the 400mg maximally absorbed), phosphorous, iron, B1, B2, B3, B5, D and zinc. There was no missing data in these particular listings.

avo · Post by **avo** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 15:44

Don't worry about the calcium, phosphorous, iron and zinc figures. RRM or Oscar can explain why.

While I don't know what you are eating exactly, seems like you simply need more B-vitamins and vitamin D. I'd suggest adding a few additional egg yolks everyday, along with small variety of fruits such as apricots, plums, peaches, etc.

Take a look at the information regarding which fruits have high amounts of those vitamins and go from there. Additionally, look up what has good amounts of zinc, iron, etc and start including those foods in your diet several times per week.

So what does a normal day consist of for you, food-wise?

YouTube · Post by **RRM** » Tue 07 Aug 2007 17:51

Please give us a complete list of foods (of your version of the diet) for one whole day.

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Wed 08 Aug 2007 01:38

[Item-1] 32g (grams) of Almonds
[Item-2] 105g (grams) of Avocados
[Item-3] 410g (grams) of Banana
[Item-4] 90g (grams) of Salmon
[Item-5] 100g (grams) of Cucumber
[Item-6] 170g (grams) of Mangos (or 480g apple juice w/ 18g oil)
[Item-7] 70g (grams) of Olive oil
[Item-8] 320g (grams) of Papaya
[Item-9] 250g (grams) of Tomatoes

I don't eat plum-like fruits because of the acid and because 16 hours of being awake isn't enough time for me to combine them properly.

If not having salmon or tuna, I drink 5 egg yolks with 280g orange juice. Having more, I'm risking weight gain.

johndela1 · Post by **johndela1** » Wed 08 Aug 2007 06:23

Tulip wrote:
Why not just get all your vitamins from the foods you eat and not using synthetic vitamins?
This question was answered already.

I'm just trying to help. The only answer I see is that you are not eating enough. If you are not eating enough to get enough vitamins you will have massive weight loss and taking vitamin suppliments wont be enough.

I guess I am trying to say: Get all your vitamins from food, vitamin suppliments have no use in a healthy diet.

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Wed 08 Aug 2007 11:57

johndela1 wrote: I'm just trying to help. The only answer I see is that you are not eating enough. If you are not eating enough to get enough vitamins you will have massive weight loss and taking vitamin suppliments wont be enough.

I guess I am trying to say: Get all your vitamins from food, vitamin suppliments have no use in a healthy diet.

I'm unable to eat more because my body won't do it. Could be appetite loss.

Just now, I read that vitamin B1 and B3 deficiencies cause appetite loss. Incidentally, those are what my nutrient calculation lacked.

YouTube · Post by **RRM** » Wed 08 Aug 2007 14:21

Tulip,

The foods that you listed supply you with only 1,824 kcal, which is too little, and then you may also lack other nutrients.
If you cannot eat more whole fruits, replace whole fruits with juices. That way you can easily ingest all energy and all other nutrients you need.
How is your protein tolerance? (how much animal food can you eat regarding acne?)

Tulip · Post by **Tulip** » Wed 08 Aug 2007 18:02

RRM wrote:Tulip,

The foods that you listed supply you with only 1,824 kcal, which is too little, and then you may also lack other nutrients.
If you cannot eat more whole fruits, replace whole fruits with juices. That way you can easily ingest all energy and all other nutrients you need.
How is your protein tolerance? (how much animal food can you eat regarding acne?)

Right now I can eat 18g protein without breaking out but I haven't tried more. I have tried drinking juice and it didn't work. I understand that you can't recommend taking vitamin supplements, but isn't it similar to using white sugar? Thanks.