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In that case: no.
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hmm, I am just thinking along the logic of
an atheist has a position about religion, they decide not to believe in anything.
a hypocrite is someone accused of believing in something but not doing what they believe in.
then isn't the default of someone never exposed to religion in a position where they can't make a choice on choosing a religion?

There is like the null hypothesis, hypothesis1, hypothesis2, and there is also the position that the question is irrelevant and that any hypotheses are irrelavant.

There is like that idea that there is a positive control group, negative control group, control group, and treatment groups.
The idea is that maybe it is the apparatus that is causing an accidental effect.

In this sense,
there has to be at least 4 categories when reasoning things.

There is an idea of making choices:
Good Choice
Bad Choice
Not Choosing
Not given a Choice

That also extends to 5 choices possibly when one is reasoning a choice:
Good Choice
Bad Choice
Neutral Choice
Not Choosing
Not given a Choice.

Then there are people (like books and authors) that decides you are doing a choice:
You made a good choice.
... bad choice
... neutral choice
... did not choose choices offered
... {but these books will never give you the option of not given a choice}

i think I am tripping on my logic somewhere.


anyways, my pet peeve, is that books, pdfs, authors et al, especially in the McMindfulness meditating field just likes to "judge" and "think" and "have an opinion" that people (their readers) {are imperfect (duh, everyone is unique and does not need to fit into those author's cookie cutter)} need their books, pdfs, et al., and they are pretty mean in their language... besides wasting time.
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Z) Not able to reason about states of food. i.e. baby squirrels
A) Default state is raw state.
B) Raw is bad
C) Cooking is bad
D) PUFA is bad
E) Charring food is bad

(in a typical SAD world)
these maps onto be:

z) no-idea
a) Null-conformist
b) Conformist
c) Non-conformist1
d) Non-conformist2
e) Non-conformist3

see? there needs to be a null-conformist, or a null-hypothesis.
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LOL :lol:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiqqC_fbP1c

"I have potato blood in my veins."
This guy would have to meditate a lot to change his opinion about potatoes for sure :roll:
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hahaha, holding me furrr and laughing - squirrel-aytundra :lol:

btw i found the picture of you trying pizza:
Oscar wrote:The last time I ate pizza the crust tasted like cardboard, the cheese like rubber and the sauce tasted like a strange mix of too many herbs and spices.
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:lol:
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Novidez wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QiqqC_fbP1c

"I have potato blood in my veins."
This guy would have to meditate a lot to change his opinion about potatoes for sure :roll:
Try this guy, he literally has a potato head.
meditation would be wrong there, Mr. Potato Head would never be able to be anything less of a potato head.
meditation should meta-meditate and convince itself that no-one needs meditation, that would be such a huge break through in meditation, that i am sure it is meta-meditation's own enlightenment point.
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Mr. Potato Head :D
Aytundra wrote:meditation would be wrong there, Mr. Potato Head would never be able to be anything less of a potato head.
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:lol: :mrgreen:
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:lol: That's Novidez!
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:lol:
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Aytundra wrote::lol: That's Novidez!
Well, at least I'm taller than a potato :P
But can I be an animal too instead...? :roll:
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hmm, let me think,
animal???
sea animal,
cucumber,
sea cucumber

you can be a "sea cucumber", :mrgreen:
it's an animal as per wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_cucumber. 8)
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:lol:
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