Before and after pictures

[spring]

This has been discussed before but I am interested in seeing pictures of RRM and Wai. I have seen before and after pictures of people following raw vegan diets and pictures of raw vegan diet 'gurus' as well ... and frankly I'm not impressed.

http://www.sharonholdstock.com/raw/transformation/

http://www.fromsadtoraw.com/RawInProgressPictures.htm

http://www.alissacohen.com/journal_rachel.html

Sure, many of them have succeeded in losing a lot of weight .. but on the whole, personally I don't think people look better ..

Many of them look even worse than before - aged, grayer, emaciated even, kind of a drawn, tired look, almost ghostly ..

Some look better in the early days of starting out raw, say after several months of going raw vegan, they peak .. then they go downhill and end up looking worse than when they started, even though they're much thinner than before.

Their eyes look really dead, have lost the spark, lost the vitality instead of blooming on this diet ...

Some of them who have been on the raw vegan diet for ages look really horrible, like skeletons.

Wai's diet is supposed to be much better because of the incorporation of raw animal foods and an emphasis on fruits over vegetables (and I do believe it is) .. but I have to admit I do not look much better since I've been on the diet. After an early peak when I did look much better and I seemed to 'glow' for a short time - my looks started to deteriorate and much like many in the pictures in the links, I seem to have aged ten years .. and I don't think it's only the weight loss that caused this ... which has been gradual and is actually starting to go up slightly and I still have quite a few more kilos to lose ... but an overall look of tiredness ... shadows under my eyes, my skin is clear but I've never had a big problem with my skin - although some age spots are starting to appear on my face - some freckle-like spots - and my skin seems more fragile, thinner and dry. I don't look well, yucky kind of ... and I think I looked better - more bright and happier and younger-looking and rosy-cheeked - when I was 10 kilos heavier and overweight.

I would be really interested in seeing before and after pictures of Wai and RRM, because for me this would be a reassurance that the diet really does work, not just to get rid one's pimples, not the reason why I started the diet, but works to keep one youthful and retards aging and maintains overall health and vitality. Pictures are proof of the pudding, as they say ....

This is a challenge for RRM and Wai.

[rafaelo]

i agree. i should post pics , too. although , i'm not hardcore, i look a hell of a lot better. if you're interested, gimme your email address, and i'll send you a few pics.

[rafaelo]

oops. didn't read your whole post. pics of rrm and wai would be much appreciated!

[nick]

I think/believe there is a picture RRM on one of the Osteoporosis pages. I forget where, but it's on one of those pages that has some links to other pages...

[Oscar]

RRM looks perfectly healthy to me, but I don't know how he looked before he started the diet.

[spring]

Could you please tell me where this picture of RRM is? I have been reading Waisays for a while but have never seen a picture of RRM.

[Oscar]

I haven't seen a picture either, I was talking about real life...

[RRM]

Oscar:
but I don't know how he looked before he started the diet.

Far less focussed, energetic and joyful, with a skin less tight (bit swollen) and his face, neck and back covered in cysts and pimples

[rafaelo]

where's the picture??

[Oscar]

I think I found it!

Before:
<img src="http://www.alternatiefkostuum.nl/blog/i ... ixpack.jpg" alt=" - " />

After
<img src="http://thebosh.com/archives/brad-pitt-nude.jpg" alt=" - " />

[rafaelo]

a good pic could be inspirational to a lot of doubters.

[RRM]

Oscar, how could you expose me like this?
(Im not mad about the second pic though)

[Oscar]

Sorry RRM...I thought...erm...well, maybe I could've used black strips over the eyes...

[spring]

Haha. It's funny but those pictures of Brad Pitt's body - they're not far from what I imagined RRM to look like.

I wish RRM and Wai would post their pictures, could they post just shots of their body parts - skin of a cheek or their forehead, abdominal musculature etc - if they're shy about showing their faces? I want to see what effect the diet has made on them - whether you can build muscles on the diet or have clear skin or get rid of cellulite without looking gaunt and being underweight - it would be really motivating to see that their diet makes a difference.

[Thomas]

Get over it!

This diet makes you beautiful, but do a diet because you truly understand what you are getting into. Because you understand the body's physiology and biochemistry, and you understand the research behind it.


Do it for these reasons, not because of someone's picture (do you see how fallacious this can be??).

You have no idea of how the person looked before, and different sequences of genes confer greater in ease in obtaining certain 'looks'!!!