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Basically every heated fat or oil will contain trans-fats. The question about which is bad or which is worse are pretty much moot, since the improvement won't be that much. So between 72 or 86% cacao I'd recommend 0% chocolate. ;)
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Rivera wrote:-And about pasteurized low fat milk, so it is less bad than the normal one because we get less oxidized fat?
but more protein, so a no no for acne....
-I try to decide which food to choose for my starvings periods. But I'm lost because of the vegetable/plant oil fact. Everybody say it's bad.
Plus, even if they are human-made or natural, when you cook them they become trans fat. So the result is the same. So when MacDonalds says they don't use it anymore, it's not that true because they still heat there oil so it becomes trans fat, right?
And me, when I check for snacks like cookies, chocolate cakes, butter cakes, whatever cakes, ice cream, processed sushis, noodles etc... I found vegetable oil inside all. I cannot find a product without it (almost).
So what about it? Are all processed foods like the one I named inevitably contain trans fat?
Why don't you make something yourself?
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Iris wrote:
Rivera wrote:-And about pasteurized low fat milk, so it is less bad than the normal one because we get less oxidized fat?
but more protein, so a no no for acne....
I'm not bothered by acne so even if I get, it's ok. It's more about the health fact than the acne fact (even if somewhere it's related)
Iris wrote:Why don't you make something yourself?
Because if it's healthy (so almost natural) it may be not meet my needs. Cooked vegetables or stuff like this won't satisfy me.
What else? Pasta? But with nothing added, it's not very good.

@Oscar: I know it's not recommended but for the ones who want, 72% or 86% cacao?

Is there the same problem when, instead of oil, you cook with margarine or butter? Does it become trans fat?
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Rivera wrote:I'm not bothered by acne so even if I get, it's ok. It's more about the health fact than the acne fact (even if somewhere it's related) [qoute]
I assume less fat also means a larger percentage calcium. Even more growth hormones. But it may be better RRM answers this one (I'm not that in to the whole milk thing :wink:)
Iris wrote:Why don't you make something yourself?
Because if it's healthy (so almost natural) it may be not meet my needs. Cooked vegetables or stuff like this won't satisfy me.
What else? Pasta? But with nothing added, it's not very good.
No I mean candy/chocolate/ice-cream/... you name it. Something that is satisfying to you.
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Rivera wrote:@Oscar: I know it's not recommended but for the ones who want, 72% or 86% cacao?
It doesn't matter.
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Iris wrote:I assume less fat also means a larger percentage calcium. Even more growth hormones. But it may be better RRM answers this one (I'm not that in to the whole milk thing :wink:)
RRM, what do you think about this?
No I mean candy/chocolate/ice-cream/... you name it. Something that is satisfying to you.
I don't know to make all these. Plus, if it may result in the same quality food because I must use the same ingredients and cook them?


-I read that "Fructose promotes the synthesis of fatty acids which themselves reduce insulin sensibility"
True?

-What do you think of fish eggs? is it as good as the fish itself or let's say, as egg yolk?

-What is for you, the minimum body fat percentage we should have? And it is the same than the one recommended by MD?
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Rivera wrote:
Iris wrote:I assume less fat also means a larger percentage calcium. Even more growth hormones.
Yes, but just a little bit, something like 2.8% (calcium) and 5% (growth hormones).
-I read that "Fructose promotes the synthesis of fatty acids which themselves reduce insulin sensibility"
True?
Yes, but glucose also promotes the synthesis of fatty acids; its all about balance (between the energy hormones and the energy that they regulate)
What do you think of fish eggs? is it as good as the fish itself or let's say, as egg yolk?
Sure, but unlike chicken eggs, they are very hard to get a hold off (fresh and not so expensive)
-What is for you, the minimum body fat percentage we should have?
Its hard to say, as it really depends on your body and your situation (how is your defense, your sleeping habits etc, how much physically active do you need to be etc etc)
And it is the same than the one recommended by MD?
less strict, as it is individually different.
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Rivera wrote:
Iris wrote:No I mean candy/chocolate/ice-cream/... you name it. Something that is satisfying to you.
I don't know to make all these. Plus, if it may result in the same quality food because I must use the same ingredients and cook them?
Not necessarily :wink:. Of course you should use cacao to make chocolate etc, but you mentioned plant-based oils. You don't have to use these. And ice cream, you could perhaps make from coconut milk. Or what I do regularly these days; just blend frozen fruits together (you might want to add some sugar/honey). Voila, ice cream :D. And it' s very good! :P. Just ideas. Or cookies made from grinded nuts and dried fruits. If you're a fan of chocolate, you could also mix it with cacao. I know for sure that's delicious :wink:

And if you don't feel like making all of this yourself, you could buy such things online too. Search for Raw-food snacks (probably) :wink: They're good munch foods I think.
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RRM wrote:Yes, but just a little bit, something like 2.8% (calcium) and 5% (growth hormones).
So what is the worse between getting growth hormones and oxidized fat?


-What can help against trans fatty deposits in the arteries? Is there a food or a supplement which can help to remove it?

-When we cook with butter/margarine, do we have the same problem of trans fatty acids that the one with oil?
its all about balance (between the energy hormones and the energy that they regulate)
I don't understand this. Can you explain more please?
Its hard to say, as it really depends on your body and your situation (how is your defense, your sleeping habits etc, how much physically active do you need to be etc etc)
Pro bodybuilder, when they enter the competition, do they have a too low fat percentage? (Not considering the low water intake fact)
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Rivera wrote: So what is the worse between getting growth hormones and oxidized fat?
Impossible to tell. Sometimes a little growth hormones doesnt do any harm and oxidized fats may not be harmful either.
But if there is a beginning of a GH-sensitive tumor in your body, or if the oxidation of fats actually results in trans fats, then you may have a problem, either way.
again, its impossible to tell, and probably individually different.
-What can help against trans fatty deposits in the arteries? Is there a food or a supplement which can help to remove it?
No, there isnt. Only the body can do that. And if no new trans fats come in, the clean up will gain ground gradually.
-When we cook with butter/margarine, do we have the same problem of trans fatty acids that the one with oil?
It depends on how many unsaturated fats the oil / butter contains, as only unsaturated fats can turn into trans fats (or into saturated fats). So, some oils are much better for cooking than others.
Also, it very much depends on whether the margarine/oil is composed of hydrogenated fats, as particularly the process of hydrogenation (to create saturated fats) is responsible for the creation of trans fats.
I read that "Fructose promotes the synthesis of fatty acids which themselves reduce insulin sensibility"
its all about balance (between the energy hormones and the energy that they regulate)
I don't understand this. Can you explain more please?
Its not fructose that increases fatty acid levels, its about the balance between glucose and fructose, and even more importantly, between how much energy you ingest, and how much you need. And, its very much about over-triggering the insulin response with every big meal.
So, there is no individual culprit (glucose or fructose), as they are perfectly ok when consumed within the lines of balance. Instead, its about a repeated imbalance, particularly between the intake of food and the energy required, which causes the over-triggering of insulin, which eventually decreases the sensitivity of the insulin receptors.
Pro bodybuilder, when they enter the competition, do they have a too low fat percentage?
Yes. You can force the body in such a low fat percentage, but its impossible to keep it there; its only temporary.
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RRM wrote:
Pro bodybuilder, when they enter the competition, do they have a too low fat percentage?
Yes. You can force the body in such a low fat percentage, but its impossible to keep it there; its only temporary.
And then you'll probably stuff yourself :roll:
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RRM wrote:So, some oils are much better for cooking than others.
Which one is the best for cook?


-All the bananas we buy, they are always picked up green before we get them? It is ok to get them at that stage? They may have less nutrients?

-Is raw liver good? (and by the way, does it taste good too?)

-There are different kinds of lettuce, I know they are not included in the diet, but I wanted to know about iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce and red/green leaf lettuce. Which one is the best, do they have all anti-nutritional factors?

-What is the name of the carrot's anti-nutritional factor?


Also there are few things I read in the FAQ, I need some clarifications on:
Diabetes patients that are on my diet, need less supplementary insulin. Diabetes-1 patients cannot produce their own insulin. When one diabetes-1 patient was on the strictest form of the diet, he needed 40% less insulin! (you know him Gianni, it's Goracergo)
The reason: this diet contains hardly any starch (bread, pasta, grains, beans), which spikes the blood glucose level the most.
Wai means when taken in big quantities ?
For a male your weight (200lb) the minimum is about 3 egg yolks and the maximum about 7 to 8 egg yolks (regarding protein), but your skin may very well be able to cope with more yolks.
Ignoring the acne factor, just about the health: it is enough 8 egg yolks per day? If I eat 8 yolk per day + let's say 9 fruits (no fish), I don't have enough proteins in the simple nutrient calculator. And I am under 200lb.
Do it slowly, because it requires some experience to drain all the egg yolk in the cup without pieces of the bag slipping into the cup too.
I just realized that I was eating the bag. But with the bag it's easy to eat because it's not liquid, you just put it in your mouth and finished.
But if we open the bag, we cannot eat it alone, directly from the egg's shell. We must pour it into a plate or something. How do you guys? I have to rethink my way of eating them.
No, no: AS MUCH fruits as you want whenever you want, except not within 1.5 hours after having consumed sashimi or a salad. You can nibble fruits and nuts (shelled by hand) all day.
So if we eat olive oil and fish, minimum time is 1 hour and half before eating again? But if we are hungry before?
So in fact, there is a limited time between each snacks?
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So, some oils are much better for cooking than others.
Which one is the best for cook?
Coconut oil

-All the bananas we buy, they are always picked up green before we get them? It is ok to get them at that stage? They may have less nutrients?
Yes, yes and yes, I believe :) Though it is not ideal offcourse, all bananas here are picked green I think, so you really don't have a choice. It's not just bananas, also pineapples, tomatoes, kiwifruit, melons, peaches and so on. Say all exotic fruits.
-Is raw liver good? (and by the way, does it taste good too?)
It tastes horrible!
-There are different kinds of lettuce, I know they are not included in the diet, but I wanted to know about iceberg lettuce, romaine lettuce and red/green leaf lettuce. Which one is the best, do they have all anti-nutritional factors?

Iceberg lettuce. Though they all contain anti-nutrients, icebergh lettuce contains least I think. It's mostly water and fibres.
For a male your weight (200lb) the minimum is about 3 egg yolks and the maximum about 7 to 8 egg yolks (regarding protein), but your skin may very well be able to cope with more yolks.
Ignoring the acne factor, just about the health: it is enough 8 egg yolks per day? If I eat 8 yolk per day + let's say 9 fruits (no fish), I don't have enough proteins in the simple nutrient calculator. And I am under 200lb.
You can safely try eating more. I don't think you should look to closely at what the nutrient calculator says about your protein requirement.
Do it slowly, because it requires some experience to drain all the egg yolk in the cup without pieces of the bag slipping into the cup too.
I just realized that I was eating the bag. But with the bag it's easy to eat because it's not liquid, you just put it in your mouth and finished.
But if we open the bag, we cannot eat it alone, directly from the egg's shell. We must pour it into a plate or something. How do you guys? I have to rethink my way of eating them.
I pour it in a small cup, and eat it with a teaspoon 8) But a table spoon might suit you better :)
No, no: AS MUCH fruits as you want whenever you want, except not within 1.5 hours after having consumed sashimi or a salad. You can nibble fruits and nuts (shelled by hand) all day.
So if we eat olive oil and fish, minimum time is 1 hour and half before eating again? But if we are hungry before?
So in fact, there is a limited time between each snacks?

1,5 hour is a guideline, but you should wait some time before eating again, because of indigestion of the protein-rich food when you don't. It has to do with fibres in the fruit. So you can drink something (which is fibre-free) when you are hungry (although not right after, because then it interferes with the gastric juice)
There is no set time between each snack, just guidelines. It's up to you to figure out when it is YOUR time to eat/drink again. :)
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Iris wrote:
Rivera wrote: -Is raw liver good? (and by the way, does it taste good too?)
It tastes horrible!
A few bites actually tastes good to me, but then the body revolts to the high level of specific nutrients (vitamin A), and i cannot take another bite. I simply cant.
Is it good?
Good food: food that is balanced in nutrients and contains as little anti nutrients as possible. Liver is not balanced.

Which one is the best, do they have all anti-nutritional factors?

Iceberg lettuce. Though they all contain anti-nutrients, icebergh lettuce contains least I think. It's mostly water and fibres.
Yes. Iceberg lettuce tastes less bitter, hence less anti nutrients.
Rivera wrote:-What is the name of the carrot's anti-nutritional factor?
There are multiple in all foods, including fruits.
Its just that fruits contain less, and less active ones. (even fruits want to deter consumers; particularly smaller animals that cannot spread the seeds, such as worms and insects)
So carrots contain multiple anti nutrients as well.
Wai means when taken in big quantities ?
Yes.
But if we open the bag, we cannot eat it alone, directly from the egg's shell. We must pour it into a plate or something. How do you guys?
I pour it in a cup, and then use it as a dip for my beef, chicken or fish, or i pour it over avocado.
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I pour it in a small cup, and eat it with a teaspoon
I pour it in a cup, and then use it as a dip for my beef, chicken or fish, or i pour it over avocado
How do you open the bag? With your fingers? Knife?

A few bites actually tastes good to me, but then the body revolts to the high level of specific nutrients (vitamin A), and i cannot take another bite. I simply cant.
A stupid question: does fish like salmon have organs? I ask this because when I see the inside, it does not look like cows or chickens.

RRM wrote:Iceberg lettuce. Though they all contain anti-nutrients, icebergh lettuce contains least I think. It's mostly water and fibres.
But iceberg lettuce does have less nutrients compared to the other two?

Rivera wrote:What is the name of the carrot's anti-nutritional factor?
RRM wrote:There are multiple in all foods, including fruits.
Where you (or Wai) did find the list for all the anti-nutrients in food? Because on internet I barely find them.


-Are 2 yolks enough for fats with 1 fruit? What do you recommend to someone who is at work and cannot have fresh fish or olive oil with him for the fats? Nuts would be the answer but over 5 snacks per day with nuts, isn't it bad too?


-In the Wai diet, I think I read alcohol was one source of energy. But I read somewhere else that: "Alcohol promotes hypoglycemias and makes them more severe and longer because alcohol blocks manufacture of sugar by the liver
True?
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