Nuclear radiation and wai diet

[Rivera]

A question related to the news:
Is the wai diet still recommended after going through nuclear radiation? Is it fine?
And I often hear that cancer feeds on sugars, so when having a cancer, it's better to cut off sugars. What about this on this diet? Is it better to stop eating fruits?

Except the iodide, which foods/supplements are recommended in case of radiation?

[RRM]

Is the wai diet still recommended after going through nuclear radiation? Is it fine?

If you were on it before, yes, its absolutely fine.
If one is about to start the diet, one will have to start very carefully / gradually.

And I often hear that cancer feeds on sugars, so when having a cancer, it's better to cut off sugars.

Cancer is not a fungus or similar.
Cancer is human cells gone astray. Human cells feed on sugars, indeed. And on protein in particular.
Here's an interesting thread about it:
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=2212
Please read it, and then ask more.

[Rivera]

I read that an anti-radiation diet should focus on the following foods:
· Miso soup
· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)
· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables
· Beans and lentils
· Potassium, calcium and mineral rich foods
· High nucleotide content foods to assist in cellular repair including spirulina, chlorella, algae, yeast, sardines, liver, anchovies and mackerel
· Cod liver oil and olive oil
· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat

What do you think about this?

-And it is said that consuming more whole grains has a multitude of benefits. Their high fiber content binds with toxins and lessens intestinal transit time. True?

-The grain buckwheat is high in rutin and helps to protect against radiation and stimulates new bone marrow production.
True?

-The oral administration of sodium bicarbonate diminishes the severity of the changes produced by uranium in the kidneys

About iodide, how long we can keep on taking the dose they recommend when exposed to nuclear radiation? It's just once, how we can keep taking it everyday until radiations are cleared?
What do you think about doctors who studied iodine and said that many people are missing it, and high doses are not bad like the majority of doctors want us to believe? There is some work on this, and it's seems pretty convincing.

[Rivera]

I forgot to ask too: how much algaes and salt we would have to consume to reach the given dose in a potassium iodide emergency pill?

[RRM]

I read that an anti-radiation diet should focus on the following foods:
· Miso soup
· Spirulina, chlorella and the algaes (kelp, etc.)
· Brassica vegetables and high beta carotene vegetables
· Beans and lentils
· Potassium, calcium and mineral rich foods
...
· Cod liver oil and olive oil
· Avoid sugars and sweets and wheat

Except for high nucleotide content food, can you please supply the rationale behind all those advices,
so that we can judge their validity?

High nucleotide content foods to assist in cellular repair including spirulina, chlorella, algae, yeast, sardines, liver, anchovies and mackerel

Nucleotides make up the structural units of RNA and DNA, and are based on purines or pyrimidines.
They are made by the body, as much as required.
Pyrimidines are made from glutamine (also made by the body) and CO2.
Purines are made from aspartic acid, glutamine, glycine, formate and CO2.
All meat and fish contains purines, but indeed, herring and mackerel contain a lot.
In as much as elevated protein intake beyond the need for protein does not stimulate muscle growth,
the elevated intake of purines beyond the need for purines does not stimulate DNA / RNA repair.

Their high fiber content binds with toxins and lessens intestinal transit time. True?

True, fibers may bind specific toxins, but you dont need grains to do this.
You can eat any food high in fiber, such as dried edible boletus (55% fiber), macadamia nuts (16% fiber), dried figs (13% fiber),
dried peach (12%), dried apple (10%), coconut (9% fiber), dried dates (9%), dried apricot (9%) and avocado (6%).

The grain buckwheat is high in rutin and helps to protect against radiation and stimulates new bone marrow production.
True?

Rutin is a glycoside of quercetin, and has numerous effects in the body, including reducing the activity of some enzymes.
Both quercetine and rutin are considered anti-oxidants, but at least quercetine also has mutagenic properties.
Rutin readily attaches to charged ions (such as iron 2+), indeed.
Wiki: "Rutin is also found in the fruit of the Fava D'anta tree (from Brazil), fruits and flowers of pagoda tree, fruits and fruit rinds (especially citrus fruits (orange, grapefruit, lemon, lime)) and berries such as mulberry, ash tree fruits and cranberries."
So, you dont need buckweat.
Rutin indeed increases mitotic activity in bone marrow. Topashka-Ancheva MN et al
Though maybe its not so much rutin, but kaempferol and quercetin that mediate actual bone marrow production. Trivedi R et al
Yet, this study indeed claims that it "offers protection against gamma-radiation-induced micronuclei formation and DNA strand breaks and enhances repair of radiation-induced DNA strand breaks".

The oral administration of sodium bicarbonate diminishes the severity of the changes produced by uranium in the kidneys

Yes, based on a 1917 study by Goto. and now part of standard treatment,
including lavage, insolubilization, laxatives, iodine for iodine, Prussian blue for cesium and DTPA for plutonium.
Fatome M.

About iodide, how long we can keep on taking the dose they recommend when exposed to nuclear radiation?

For this purpose, the typical adult dose is 100 mg iodine / day.
Its sole function is preventing the uptake of radioactive iodine in the thyroid gland (leading to thyroid cancer and hypothyroidism).
The supplementary iodide needs to completely fill up all the vacant allocation space, so that the radioactive iodine will hardly get stored.
Radioactive iodide has a half life of eight days, so, now you dont need to supplement anymore.

What do you think about doctors who studied iodine and said that many people are missing it, and high doses are not bad like the majority of doctors want us to believe?
There is some work on this, and it's seems pretty convincing.

For every single vitamin, mineral and trace element, there are doctors who claim that we are missing it,
that we need a lot more, and they all sound convincing.
Its always tempting to believe them, as then you can 'solve those problems' by buying supplements.
But keep in mind that in the body, everything is connected, and needs to be exactly in balance.
Too much of any nutrient will always bring something out of balance. "More" is certainly not always "better".
check this out: http://www.waiworld.com/waidiet/sup-tmbad.html
Of course, in cases of nuclear fall out, you have no choice.

I forgot to ask too: how much algaes and salt we would have to consume to reach the given dose in a potassium iodide emergency pill?

Dont bother; too late and insufficient.

[abicahsoul]

Rivera, do you live in Japan? If you don't mind me asking.

[Rivera]

Except for high nucleotide content food, can you please supply the rationale behind all those advices,
so that we can judge their validity?

miso:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11833659

It may have been our fear of fallout from the impending nuclear holocaust or from nuclear power plant meltdowns that first attracted Westerners to miso. During the 60's, students of macrobiotics and Zen began hearing about Dr. Shinichiro Akizuki, director of Saint Francis Hospital in Nagasaki during the second World War. Although Akizuki spent years treating atomic bomb victims just a few miles from ground zero, neither he nor his staff suffered from the usual effects of radiation. Akizuki hypothesized that he and his associates were protected from the deadly radiation because they drank miso soup every day.

In 1972, Akizuki's theory was confirmed when researchers discovered that miso contains dipilocolonic acid, an alkaloid that chelates heavy metals, such as radioactive strontium, and discharges them from the body. However, the most convincing evidence demonstrating the protection miso offers to those exposed to radiation was published in Japan in 1989. Professor Akihiro Ito, at Hiroshima University's Atomic Radioactivity Medical Lab, read reports of European countries importing truckloads of miso from Japan after the accident at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Ito reasoned that if people were protected from radiation by miso, then rats that were fed miso and radiated should develop less cancer than radiated rats that were not fed miso. Professor Ito was not surprised to find that the liver cancer rate for rats that were not fed miso was 100 to 200 percent higher than that of rats that were fed miso. Ito also reported that rats that were fed miso had much less inflammation of organs caused by radioactivity.

The others, I cannot find studies but I think for beans and vegetables it's because of their sulfur, β-carotene, vitamin C & E content.
The cod liver oil, I think it's because of its vitamin A content.
Olive oil:

Extra virgin olive oil but any cold pressed, extra virgin oil will do in an emergency. If you are exposed or are going to be, you can drink a half cup and if will help supply protection for the cell membranes. ( I got this from the Atomic Energy Commission Report many years ago but it still is true.) Some studies show that applying these oils to the skin can help protect against radiation skin burns. Vitamin E oil applied to the skin, along with Vitamin C and aloe vera could help mitigate radiation burns.

Calcium:

Calcium and Magnesium: both help your body to pass off Strontium 90. Get supplement not made from animal bones which contains Strontium 90. Dolomite is best. Dr. Linus Pauling says heavy calcium supplementation will reduce strontium 90 absorption by 50 percent, but be careful not to over indulge unless exposed.

By the mechanism of selective uptake, calcium blocks or decreases the absorption of strontium-90, calcium-45 and other radioactive isotopes by the skeletal system. Calcium also helps to eliminate radioactive isotopes that are lodged in the bones! The National Research Council recommends that adults consume 800 mg. of calcium per day. For children and lactating women this is 1,000 mg. and 1,400 mg.. Too much calcium can be harmful. The best forms of supplemental calcium are calcium citrate, gluconate, carbonate, lactate, or amino acid chelated calcium. It is good to take a calcium—magnesium combination.

For every single vitamin, mineral and trace element, there are doctors who claim that we are missing it,
that we need a lot more, and they all sound convincing.
Its always tempting to believe them, as then you can 'solve those problems' by buying supplements.
But keep in mind that in the body, everything is connected, and needs to be exactly in balance.
Too much of any nutrient will always bring something out of balance. "More" is certainly not always "better".
check this out: http://www.waiworld.com/waidiet/sup-tmbad.html

But in this case, it's not the idea to get more for the sake of getting more, but to add back something people are lacking because of environmental causes (or sometimes because they don't eat well).
For example, fluoridated water blocks iodine. Smoking too. Some studies show that soil is not fertile as it used to be etc... All these can cause deficiencies.

NHANES 1970 - 2000 (National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey)
The proportion of the U.S. population with moderate to severe iodine deficiency (<50 ug/L in urine) has increased over 600% in the last 30 years !
NHANES 1970 – 2.6%
NHANES 1990 – 11.7%
NHANES 2000 – 16.8% of U.S. women of childbearing age had urinary iodine concentrations <50 ug/L.

@ abicahsoul: Nope

[RRM]

...researchers discovered that miso contains dipilocolonic acid, an alkaloid that chelates heavy metals

So, you dont need miso soup, but heavy meatl-chelators.
Im pretty sure these are available as a product / drug.

I think for beans and vegetables it's because of their sulfur, β-carotene, vitamin C & E content.

For this, you certainly dont need beans or vegetables, but you already know that...

Calcium and Magnesium: both help your body to pass off Strontium 90.

Ok, just make sure to stop taking the supplement when the strontium is passed off.

But in this case, it's not the idea to get more for the sake of getting more, but to add back something people are lacking because of environmental causes (or sometimes because they don't eat well).
For example, fluoridated water blocks iodine. Smoking too. Some studies show that soil is not fertile as it used to be etc... All these can cause deficiencies.

So, only take it when you are deficient.
This means: diagnosis first.
Only if you appear to be deficient, it makes sense to supplement.

NHANES 2000 – 16.8% of U.S. women of childbearing age had urinary iodine concentrations <50 ug/L.

Consuming seafish regularly solves this.