Panacea's diet log

[mario91]

I think dried fruit is the best option for your situation. Guess I've already advise you this one, ever tried it already?
You can buy bulks and dry it yourself - the very best option, since this way you know what temperature it's dried, what's added to it, and you can have low-pesticide dried fruits, since most dried fruits from stores are probably high in pesticides for not being possible to be peeled (figs, apricots, raisins, etc).
Or you can go to a place with lots of variety and bulk some.
Or ever order online. It won't be that expensive, from what I've been seeing.

The best thing is that, not only dried fruit is almost as rich in micronutrients as fresh fruit (only some part of the water soluble vitamins (B, C) and enzymes and etc are absorved in the drying process), as it's also very dense is sugar, so it could help with your sugar cravings. I used to feel some kind of "need" for "sugar density" and more dense texture than fresh fruit, when I started this diet, and dried fruits helped me a lot satisfying it.

[dime]

right now I drink soda like Dr. Pepper (yes I know it's terrible) or spring water along with fully cooked hamburgers, and the rest is all raw beef that is frozen and defrosted in my mouth and some bosc pears as that's the only good tasting fruit in my region (the rest tastes like hard watery fiber and pesticides). I'm striving for a 100% spring water, raw frozen beef, and bosc pear diet but it's really hard to do without the soda or hot food for at least one meal a day, and I believe that has to do with my low body weight, it being freezing, and I'm sedentary with very little to do so it's always on my mind (opposed to someone who has a busy active lifestyle).

The dr. pepper is probably the worst thing, but being as sedentary as I am, the caffiene is the only thing keeping me with regular bowel movements (much better than being constipated trust me). If I had the lifestyle of exercise I wouldn't need to take that compromise. While it's a horrible diet compared to RRM's , and a horrible lifestyle in realms of exercise as well, it keeps me away from candy, grain-based processed food like honeybuns or donuts, overbinging on fast food and all kinds of worse stuff. So it's how I've instinctively adapted to survive and so far I don't get sick or tired all day any more.
panacea what kind of nonsense excuse is that "I'm sedentary so I have to drink soda"

And seriously, you can't warm up that frozen beef in the oven or in warm water, but instead you need a hot cooked meal.

[panacea]

panacea what kind of nonsense excuse is that "I'm sedentary so I have to drink soda"
And seriously, you can't warm up that frozen beef in the oven or in warm water, but instead you need a hot cooked meal.

Lol
It's not an excuse - either way I would drink something bad for me. "Just try and quit" doesn't work on me, so I have to make compromises and find out what's least bad that I can manage. I've noticed that if I don't drink caffiene, I'll be constipated because I'm extremely sedentary at times. Being constipated (and I don't mean like I feel it, I just don't have bowel movements and it makes me lethargic under the surface) makes me tired all day and I end up binging on bad food. Therefore, the caffiene in reality keeps me away from an even worse diet, even if on a forum it looks weird.

I wish I lived in the fantasy world of "well this is what's best for me, so I'll be a robot and do whatever my mind thinks is best, free will rules, screw addictions!" world most people think they do but I don't.

And about the beef, yeah cooking it, it tastes horrible. I bought a slow cooker just for that purpose and never could get it to taste good at all, made me start hating the stuff.

[dime]

And about the beef, yeah cooking it, it tastes horrible. I bought a slow cooker just for that purpose and never could get it to taste good at all, made me start hating the stuff.

You must have been doing something wrong :) But I was saying just warm it up, at least don't eat it frozen..

[Kasper]

"Just try and quit" doesn't work on me, so I have to make compromises and find out what's least bad that I can manage.

I think that raw cacao powder solutions was a much better than what you are doing now.
Not being able to manage yourself if you don't drink caffeine, that really sounds ADD-like to me.
I think you are much better off using ADD medication (concerta or ritalin), and eating/living healthy beside that.
Than drinking Dr. Pepper all day. Using ADD medication has helped me a lot to manage my life.

By the way, constipitation ? In general, eating more plant based (alkalizing) food helps a lot with constipation problems.
If you can get any good plant based food, why not order some raw organic powders ?
There are many green powders on the market. And this is as easy (managing wise) as you can think off.

[panacea]

why are you against eating frozen raw beef dime? it defrosts in my mouth before I swallow it anyway
and yeah it's pretty hard to do a slow cooker "wrong" lol. I mean you just put the stuff in with a little water and turn it on. problem is it tastes bland and I have to eat a lot more of it than the raw stuff. At least with the raw stuff I feel like I'm getting something out of it (health). Have to keep in mind, it's just as good as egg yolks or raw fish for example, depends on the quality. Where I live the eggs are mass manufactured (bad quality) and the fish smell bad really quickly, but I can get really good grass fed raw beef, it's just hella expensive.

ADD doesn't even exist Kasper, you're so far off the deep end I don't know what to say to you
whenever people start using keywords like alkalizing, ADD, and powders/pills, I start considering them irrelevant
but hey thank you for the laugh at diagnosing me with an imaginary mental disorder because of one or two posts over an internet forum there, doctor K. so many choices to choose from as well! ritalin or concerta, both sound almost as good as my morning cocktail of viagra and cocaine!

[Kasper]

Okay, maybe ADD doesn't exist. Let's assume you're right. I don't care.

Let's talk about people needing a constant supply of caffeine to manage their life.
In my experience Ritalin/Concerta works similar to caffeine.
The difference is, that ritalin works for 2-4 hours, and concerta works for 8-12 hours.
And with ritalin/concerta you can find out a dosage that works optimal for you, and with caffeine you're just guessing a little bit.

Don't you think that those kind of people, would be better off with concerta/ritalin than with drinking Dr. Pepper all day ?

[panacea]

People don't "need" a constant supply of caffiene to manage their life. You're viewing reality in your narrow little binoculars and have no concept or grasp on me or addicts in general, in seems.
I don't drink Dr. Pepper constantly lol, I had been off of soda entirely for a year or so before I started drinking again but I felt terrible if I strayed even a little bit from the wai diet, mostly due to chronic constipation. It's not even constipation caused by excess grains or something, just way too little movement/exercise. I live for the computer lifestyle, being outside in the cold (or even heat) is like hell for me I have no enjoyment by being outside at all. (People who can look at scenery and feel nice just perplex me). So therefore I exercise very little and seeing as how I have very few errands to run, I just don't have the lifestyle of being busy and moving around a lot, with a semi-bad diet (good compared to most people, bad compared to people here), that equates to constipation without caffiene or some other stimulant. I suspect many many other modern people are in the same situation and don't even know it, as they all seem to either drink soda or coffee or eat chocolate or as you say, take stimulant drugs even if they're prescription.

Some of the worst advice you can give an addict is to present them with yet another, different addiction, and in this case a worse one. There's nothing to suggest that a drug targeted to stimulate the brain is better for you than at least a somewhat nutritious (energy(sugar) and water wise) soda.

I love how you frame your questions to make you feel like you're right, the answer however is no those kind of people would be better off with their current addictions, rather than stacking ritalin or concerta on top of them because in all (99.999%) likelihood, they will keep drinking soda or some other good-tasting addiction as well and will simply adapt to the drugs as all addicts do and need more and more. Please go to curezone or some other troll site with your "I'm a medical genius I can throw around prescription drug names and use words like optimal, alkalizing, and give bullshit hour-timeframes for how stuff works inside a body that I can't see what's going on. I take drug companies word as my religion, and doctors' words too. I'm a real smart guy, you should listen to me!" baloney.

In case you didn't know addicts work by psychological triggers - the taste of soda, coffee, chocolate and even drinking/eating it etc is triggered to an emotional response. There's also a biological side to it like the high sugar content in soda also creates another neurological response. Substituting ritalin or concerta may have a similar effect but it's like trying to tell a smoker that they can quit smoking by taking some drug that has all the ingredients of a cigerrette in it and swallowing it, or using a nicotine patch. The truth is this almost always doesn't work and leads to compound problems because they will use the substitution in excess of the original harm to try and compensate for the lack (more nicotine from the patches than they ever had in cigarettes for example).

Of course, the real way out of addiction is exercise, change of lifestyle and surroundings, and diet all at the same time preferably with some 24/7 or as close to it as possible, in person support. Changing your environment that drastically, subjecting your body to exercise, forming new connections in the brain, tends to override old habits. Unfortunately my main concern right now is school and being able to make money for myself to survive in the short and long term, and I can worry about finding a spouse and changing my environment later as I would run out of funds if I tried that now.

[Kasper]

I didn't want to offend you or anything.
I even don't want to sound like the smart guy..
I'm quite aware that I won't be regarded as a smart guy in this forum if I advice people to take ADD medication.
And normally I would suggest a person not take this medication, but first try something more natural.
Like following the digestive health program of artour, or the gaps diet.

But, I'm quite aware how difficult for some people it it is to follow such a program.
And I believe that for some it would be better to use ADD medication, so they are better able to follow through with such a health program.
Believe me, I was not saying to trying to sound smart or whatever, the only reason I'm saying this, is because I really think it could help you achieving a better health.
But if you don't think so, that's cool with me.

Ritalin or concerta on top of them because in all (99.999%) likelihood, they will keep drinking soda or some other good-tasting addiction as well and will simply adapt to the drugs as all addicts do and need more and more.

I know quite a lot of people who use concerta/ritalin, and with most of them it has helped them against addiction they used to have.
Not only against good-tasting addiction, but also against addictions, such as computer games etc.

But forget everything I said about ADD-medication, I didn't know you were so dogmatic against it.
If I knew, I wouldn't even tried of course.

[panacea]

I'm not just against ADD-medication, I'm against all junkfood/drugs/processed "food". Unfortunately as a child I was already subjected to soda and a myriad of other addictive substances. I would give anything to go back and strip all those memories away so that I wouldn't have to deal with this shit as it's the single most annoying thing in my life. I'd give even more to somehow ban or destroy every last piece of all the aforementioned substances off the face of the earth so no one would have to suffer from the mental and physical degradation that results, but I'm certainly not going to start stacking new addictions on top of the ones I already have because it has worked for quite a lot of people you know. If "it worked for quite a lot of people I know" was any evidence, then everything under the sun would be justified including the bogus liver flushes or nicotine patches that are preached by thousands but statistically hardly ever works. The truth is that almost all of the "it worked for X"... claims are pulled out of someones ass because they don't really know what happened to that person, they just know what that person told them and the likelihood is that person didn't sit down and talk for 24 hours about every intricate detail that went into the successful transformation (if it even was one) because they aren't even self aware about the intricacies of their own psychology.

For example, someone who starts X diet, also happens 3 days later to start exercising and drinking more water because they're on the diet, and health kick mentality. 2 weeks later they proclaim enthusastically and whole heartedly to their friends that X diet helped them lose weight and is a miracle diet, everyone should get the ad flyer and look into it. People are not that clever to see what is actually happening to them. The people you know are therefore irrelevant. I can't tell you how many recommendations I've had from family members or friends saying this or that worked. If there was any chance of you getting through to me though, it stopped when you started throwing drug names and alkalizing etc. I've been there and done that, bought every green or herbal powder under the sun back in the day, nothing is that simple. Even something as simple as "breathing is the key to health" has so many catch-22's and nuances to it and methods of doing it right. The true core problem here is that we are brought up in a foreign, unnatural habitat, and so brainwashed in the modern world that we can't even recognize dangers like wearing rubber shoes and insulating yourself from the Earth is bad, it's not even on the average persons radar. You can't fix such a deeply embedded psychological disease by using some pharmaceutical "solution" created by the diseased line of thinking itself. It's going to be a complicated, heavily rule-laden based system of habits and mental perspectives that reverses the brainwashing in the end (the approach I listed in the last post is a good one, if you want to help people in the future).

Meanwhile I'm going to keep my diet as much at a stand still as possible because if I don't, it only gets worse as there is more and more stress coming into my life as I'm going to be entering the workforce

[dime]

You can buy pure caffeine powder and put as much as you want in orange juice or whatever, if the caffeine is what makes you happy. Also there's a bunch of other solutions against constipation (e.g. castor oil) that are much more specialized to the exact problem of constipation, unlike caffeine which has a broad effect in the body.

I'm not sure why you think that exercise has so much to do with constipation. I'm pretty active every day and I can still easily get constipation. The intestines are muscles and very able to move the food through them as necessary, there's no need for external shaking or whatever. Dificulties arise, in my opinion, when there is dehydration, or you eat some stuff full of opioid substances like dairy or wheat, which slow them down. But mostly it's dehydration that causes the biggest problems. To me it can happen that I don't have BM for 5 days or more, because I don't eat any fiber; if I stay away from dehydration then there's no sign of constipation at all.

[panacea]

Yeah I would guess that if you're dehydrated, that would be a big problem in many ways but I don't know many dehydrated people nor have I ever been dehydrated that I can recall.
When you are sedentary all the time, it's not just about the lack of body vibrations or shaking, the muscles get locked in a state of tension and inflammation all over your body. It's almost impossible to retain correct posture sitting in a chair all day because in order to have good posture, you need high CP and exercise to relax the muscles for when you do sit down for extended periods. It's more complex than that even but I'm sure you get the idea that when the body is busy with something else (inflammation), has poor posture, lower body oxygenation, and tense muscles, it results in slower digestion times (usually).

The soda has two purposes, endulging my addiction to its taste and the caffeine aspect of it, just like cigerettes. I found out that if I indulge in soda every once in awhile, I can effectively stay away from worse munch foods like processed grain products (honey buns), chips, etc. Since it contains about 30-40% water, lots of sugar, and caffiene, I don't think it's as bad as constipating myself and heavily grain based products (although I'm sure there's some in soda). This is definitely not something I would recommend anyone to do, it's just my best approach right now as I deal with other stuff in life.

[dime]

I tried Dr. Pepper, it tastes exactly like marzipan.. not sure if you have that type of sweets in the US but it's the same taste :)

[overkees]

Marzipan = almonds + sugar